MEMRI: Veteran of Israel's Left Calls Arafat an Arch-Liar & Murderer
June 29, 2001
An Intellectual Leader and Veteran of Israel's Left and
Peace Camp, Haim Shur: 'Arafat is an Arch-Liar, an Arch-Murderer'
Haim Shur is a well-known intellectual leader and veteran
of Israel's peace camp. He is the former Editor of
Israel's Socialist Party ("Mapam") daily "Al Ha'mishmar,"
and "The New Outlook," the English journal of Israel's Left
which called for a dialogue with the PLO and for the
establishment of an independent Palestinian state before
anyone else did, during the 1980s. In a comprehensive
interview with Ma'ariv, Shur claimed that the Palestinians
deceived and manipulated Israel's peace camp. He stated he
has recently come to realize that the entire peace process
was a part of the Palestinian phased plan to destroy
Israel, admitted he believes the Israeli Left was
misleading the Israeli public, and that there are no
chances for peace in the near future. Following are
excerpts from Shur's interview:(1)
"During the last few years, 75 year-old Shur is witnessing
the ideals which shaped his life and thoughts crumbling
down one after the other right in front of his own eyes:
the Ha'Shomer-Ha'tzair [pioneer Israeli Socialist youth
movement], the Kibbutz [the Israeli Socialist farming
community], Socialism, the Left, and the brotherhood of
nations. The last few months produced another painful
disillusionment; Shur...is feeling deceived."
"[Shur said:] the Palestinians deceived me personally and
the entire Israeli Left as well. They lied to us, they
scammed us, maneuvered and manipulated us. Personally, I
will never forgive them for this. My respect for Yossi
Beilin is severely damaged when he says that he had already
concluded with them a mutually accepted formula on the
refugee issue, because if he is still incapable of
ascertaining what is going on here than he is not really a
man of the Left. A genuine man of the Left is a man who
should accept the reality for what it is, and not see it
the way he wishes to. The Palestinians are not yet ripe
for peace, and my duty as a man of the Left is to realize
this truth. The Left is not a synonym for deceit."
Q: "In what way did the Palestinians deceive you
personally?"
A: "I had countless meetings with Palestinians. If someone
conducted a study on the top ten Israelis who visited
Palestinians most frequently I am sure I would be among
them. [I met with Palestinians] more frequently than
Shimon Peres, Yossi Beilin, and Ron Pundak did. During all
of my meetings with them, the Palestinians said that we
will find a mutually accepted formula regarding the right
of return, but the truth is that this never happened."
Q: "What do you mean by that?"
A: "They never tried to reach a mutually accepted formula.
Everything they said was just a part of the phased plan. I
was one of those who opened the American doors for the PLO.
When we organized an Israeli-Palestinian conference in
Washington in 1987, the State Department refused to give
them entry visas. We took it upon ourselves [to take care
of all the necessary details] so that they could get the
visas. And then they entered the U.S. and took it by storm
with our assistance. This is what they wanted, that was
the target, to capture the good will of the American Jewish
Left. I personally invited them to social gatherings at
the homes of Jewish Americans. Their success was owed to
our help. Without out our assistance they would never
succeed."
Q: "Was that a mistake?"
A: "Not only that this was a mistake, but merely two or
three years following [our meetings with the Palestinians
in the U.S.] Nabil Sha'ath appeared in front of an audience
in Gaza and told them that [their meetings with us] were
just a tactical move. [Sha'ath explained to his audience
in Gaza that] the Palestinian plan is to make piecemeal
gains for the ultimate goal of conquering the entire State
of Israel. It became clear to me that the speeches made by
Nabil Sha'ath - the same person who was my best friend in
America and who came to hug me and kiss me following my
pro-peace speeches - were worthless. He did not mean
anything he said."
Q: "Does this lack of trust represent a shift for a man of
the Left such as yourself?"
A: "There is one thing that no one will ever be able to
take away from me, and that is my [commitment to the]
truth. It enrages me when I see my friends from the
[Labor] party, including the young generation, going to
Gaza to greet Yasser Arafat. After all, he is an
arch-liar, an arch-murderer. All along I argued that one
makes peace with the enemy, but this is conditioned upon
the enemy's willingness to make peace as well. If they
continue their enemy-type nature, including their murderous
acts, than I am not going [to approach them] as a friend.
I do not think that Yossi Sarid, Yossi Beilin, Abshalom
Vilan, and Anat Ma'or have business in having any contacts
[now] with Yasser Arafat. If anyone ought to do it at all,
it should only be the government."
Q: "When you said 'they deceived me,' did you refer to all
of them?
"
A: "I referred to an entire group of people, who do not
care about anyone or anything, who deceived me. The fact
that Nabil Sha'ath is an opportunist is clear to me. The
fact that Ziad Abu-Ziyad is an opportunist is also clear to
me. [The answer to the question] whether Hanna Seniora is
also one? It is not clear to me. [The answer to the
question] whether these professors I met in the U.S. are
the same? That I don't know. I don't know if they disagree
with Yasser Arafat; I do know I have never heard them [say
it]."
Q: "The Israeli Right is blaming the Left for misleading
the nation, for orchestrating some kind of a messianic
peace movement. Do you accept the charges?"
A: "To a certain degree, yes. We wished for peace so much
that we ended up turning our wishes into factual reality.
However, there is not going to be peace, not next year and
not five years from now. I am not abandoning the path of
peace. However, I also refuse to abandon my people and my
right to live. However, with the same fervor which I use
to speak against the Palestinians I also speak against
them."
Q: "Against whom? The Israeli Right?"
A: "Against the settlements which will cause our downfall.
Why in the world do they [i.e., the Israeli government]
impose on [the Palestinians] the settlement of Ariel in the
middle of their territories? Would we accept it if they
had built their own Ariel where Netanya is? First, I must
be true to myself; I must make sure that my conscience is
clear. I am going to take what I deserve even if they do
not want to give it to me. But I do not want to take more
than what I deserve. [At the same time,] it is very
painful to me when they hurt the settlers..."
Endnote:
(1) Ma'ariv, June 22, 2001.
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